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Front Page Titles (by Subject) TO N. AND J. VAN STAPHORST - The Works, vol. 4 (Notes on Virginia II, Correspondence 1782-1786)
TO N. AND J. VAN STAPHORST - Thomas Jefferson, The Works, vol. 4 (Notes on Virginia II, Correspondence 1782-1786) [1905]Edition used:The Works of Thomas Jefferson, Federal Edition (New York and London, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904-5). Vol. 4.
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- Notes On Virginia ( Continued )
- Query Xii a Notice of the Counties, Cities, Townships, and Villages?
- Query Xiii the Constitution of the State and Its Several Charters?
- Query Xiv the Administration of Justice and the Description of the Laws?
- Query Xv the Colleges and Public Establishments, the Roads, Buildings, &c.?
- Query Xvi the Measures Taken With Regard of the Estates and Possessions of the Rebels, Commonly Called Tories?
- Query Xvii the Different Religions Received Into That State?
- Query Xviii the Particular Customs and Manners That May Happen to Be Received In That State?
- Query Xix the Present State of Manufactures, Commerce, Interior and Exterior Trade?
- Query Xx a Notice of the Commercial Productions Particular to the State, and of Those Objects Which the Inhabitants Are Obliged to Get From Europe and From Other Parts of the World?
- Query Xxi the Weights, Measures and the Currency of the Hard Money? Some Details Relating to Exchange With Europe?
- Query Xxii the Public Income and Expences?
- Query Xxiii the Histories of the State, the Memorials Published In Its Name In the Time of Its Being a Colony, and the Pamphlets Relating to Its Interior Or Exterior Affairs Present Or Antient?
- Correspondence and Miscellaneous Writings 1783
- To Francis Eppes 1
- To General Washington
- To James Madison 1
- To James Madison 1
- To the French Minister. (chevalier De La Luzerne.)
- To the Secretary For Foreign Affairs. (robert R. Livingston)
- To the Secretary of Foreign Affairs (robert R. Livingston)
- To James Madison 2
- To Francis Eppes 1
- To the Secretary For Foreign Affairs (robert R. Livingston)
- To John Jay
- To James Madison 1
- To James Madison
- Proposed Constitution For Virginia 1
- To James Madison
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- To James Madison
- To Charles Carter
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison)
- To James Monroe 1
- To Martha Jefferson 1
- To James Madison
- Report of Committee On Unfinished Business 1
- Report On Definitive Treaty 1
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison)
- Resolutions Relating to British Treaty. 1
- Report On Letters From the Ministers In Paris 2
- Report On Ceremonial For Washington 1
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison)
- Report On Ratification of Treaty 1
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- 1784 - to James Madison
- Motion On Ratification of Treaty 1
- Fair Copy
- Rough Draft
- Resolution On Definitive Treaty 1
- Ratification of Definitive Treaty 2
- Draft For Proclamation Announcing Ratification of Definitive Treaty 1
- To Martha Jefferson 1
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison)
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison)
- To Oliver Pollock
- Draft of a Report On the Memorial of Zebulon Butler and Others 1
- Rough Draft
- Fair Copy
- Report On Letter From John Allan 1
- Draft of Report On a Committee of the States 1
- Report On Committee of the States 1
- To the Superintendent of Finance 1 (robert Morris)
- To James Madison
- Draft of Deed of Cession of Northwest Territory 1
- Report On Government For Western Territory 1
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- Report On Reduction of Civil List 1
- Instructions For Negotiating With Indians. 1
- To George Washington
- To George Washington
- To James Madison 1
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- Resolves On European Treaties 1
- Report of Government For the Western Territory 1
- Report On Cession of Western Territory. 1
- Report of the Arrears of Interest 1
- To George Washington
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison.)
- To George Washington
- Notes On the Establishment of a Money Unit, and of a Coinage For the United States 1
- Motion On Steuben. 1
- Notes On the Permanent Seat of Congress. 1
- Resolutions For the Legislatures of Maryland and Virginia. 1
- Resolve On Continental Congress
- To George Washington
- To James Madison
- Report On Mercer 1
- Draft of “an Ordinance Establishing a Land Office For the United States” 2
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- To Horatio Gates 1
- Report On Continental Bills of Credit 1
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- To the Governor of Virginia (benjamin Harrison)
- Instructions to the Ministers Plenipotentiary Appointed to Negotiate Treaties of Commerce With the European Nations 1
- To James Monroe
- To Charles Thomson 1
- To James Madison
- To Benjamin Franklin 1
- To James Madison
- To the Governor of Virginia 1 (benjamin Harrison)
- To James Madison.
- To James Monroe
- To Charles Thomson 1
- To James Madison
- To James Monroe
- To Horatio Gates 1
- 1785 - to Nathanael Greene 1
- To the Governor of Virginia (patrick Henry)
- To James Monroe
- To James Madison
- To James Monroe
- To James Monroe
- To James Madison
- To the Governor of Virginia (patrick Henry)
- To James Monroe 1
- To Mrs. John (abigail) Adams
- To James Monroe
- To Mrs. Sprowle
- To Mrs. John (abigail) Adams
- To Richard Henry Lee
- To the Virginia Delegates In Congress
- To the Governor of Virginia (patrick Henry)
- To N. and J. Van Staphorst 1
- To John Adams 1
- To Dr. Richard Price
- To John Jay
- To James Monroe 1
- To David Hartley
- To Mary Jefferson 1
- To Mrs John (abigail) Adams
- To Hogendorp (count Gysbert-charles Van)
- To N. and J. Van Staphorst
- To Phillip Mazzei
- Conference With the Count De Vergennes On the Subject of the Commerce of the United States With France. 1 1785.
- Correspondence 1786
- To Dr. James Currie
- To the Governor of Virginia. 1 (patrick Henry.)
TO N. AND J. VAN STAPHORST
Paris, Oct. 25. 1785. Gentlemen,
—I received yesterday your favor of the 20th inst. In order to give you the information you desire on the subject of the Liquidated debts of the United States, & the comparative footing on which they stand, I must observe to you that the first & great division of our federal debt is into 1. Foreign and 2. Domestic. The Foreign debt comprehends 1. the loan from the government of Spain. 2. the loans from the government of France & from the Farmers general. 3. the loans negotiated in Holland by orders of Congress. This branch of our debt stands absolutely singular: no man in the United States having ever supposed that Congress or their legislatures can in any wise modify or alter it. They justly view the United States as the one party & the lenders as the other & that the consent of both would be requisite were any modification to be proposed. But with respect to the Domestic debt, they consider Congress as representing both the borrowers & lenders, and that the modifications which have taken place in this, have been necessary to do justice between the two parties, & that they flowed properly from Congress as their mutual umpire. The Domestic debt comprehends 1. the army debt; 2. the Loan office debt. 3. the liquidated debt. & 4. the unliquidated debt. The 1st. term includes debts to the officers & souldiers for pay, bounty & subsistence. The 2d. term means monies put into the loan-office of the United States. The 3d. comprehends all debts contracted by quartermasters, commissaries, & others duly authorized to procure supplies for the army, and which have been liquidated (that is, settled) by commissioners appointed under the resolution of Congress of June 12. 1780. or by the officer who made the contract. The 4th. comprehends the whole mass of debts described in the preceding article which have not yet been liquidated. These are in a course of liquidation, and are passing over daily into the 3d. class. The debts of this 3d. class, that is the liquidated debt is the object of your inquiry. No time is fixed for the payment of it, no fund is yet determined, nor any firm provision for the interest in the meantime. The consequence is that the certificates of these debts sell greatly below par. When I left America they could be bought for from 2/6 to 15/ in the pound: this difference proceeding from the circumstances of some states having provided for paying the interest on those due in their own state, which others had not. Hence, an opinion had arisen with some, & propositions had even been made in the legislatures for paying off the principal of these debts with what they had cost the holder & interest on that. This opinion is far from being general, & I think will not prevail. But it is among possible events. I have been thus particular that you might be able to judge not only in the present case, but also in others, should any attempts be made to speculate in your city on these papers. It is a business in which foreigners will be in great danger of being duped. It is a science which bids defiance to the powers of reason. To understand it, a man must not only be on the spot, and be perfectly possessed of all the circumstances relative to every species of these papers, but he must have that dexterity which the habit of buying & selling them alone gives. The brokers of these certificates are few in number, and any other person venturing to deal with them engages in a very unequal contest.
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