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83.: The Reform Bill [10] 8 AUGUST, 1867 - John Stuart Mill, The Collected Works of John Stuart Mill, Volume XXVIII The Collected Works of John Stuart Mill, Volume XXVIII - Public and Parliamentary Speeches Part I November 1850 - November 1868 [1850]

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Part of: Collected Works of John Stuart Mill, in 33 vols.

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83.

The Reform Bill [10]

8 AUGUST, 1867

PD, 3rd ser., Vol. 189, col. 1192. Reported in The Times, 9 August, p. 8, from which variants and responses are taken. One variant is taken from the report in the St. Stephen’s Chronicle, Vol. IV, pp. 843–4. The discussion is on a new Clause C introduced into the Reform Bill (see No. 50) by the Lords: “Any Voter for a County or Borough may, in compliance with the Provisions herein-after contained, give his Vote by a Voting Paper instead of personally.”

itais scarcely possible that the House will be induced to pass, or that the Government will attempt to force upon the House, this really monstrous proposala . (Oh! and laughter.) The vast mass of fraud to which it would give birth has been shown, but it will produce effects worse than even that mass of fraud. If the House have the smallest desire to diminish bribery and intimidation—if they do not wish to increase it to an enormous extent, they will refuse to assent to this Amendment. If it passes, every tenant may be taken to the drawing-room of his landlord and there compelled to sign his voting paper bin accordance with the party interest of his landlordb . (Oh! and laughter.) Do not we know what electioneering agents will do? Will they not take the voter before the magistrate who has the greatest power over him? This will become the general rule of the country. (Oh! oh!) I do not say that bribery will be as universal as intimidation. But the voting papers are to be signed before a magistrate, and, recollect, Mr. Churchward is a magistrate.1 (Oh! oh! and laughter.) When I heard that the Upper House had adopted this cin principle but not in detail,c2 I did expect something decent would be done to place checks and restraints on its consequences. I could not have believed that any serious person pretending to the character of a politician would have brought forward such a set of rules, which are apparently constructed to aggravate instead of diminishing the mischievous operation of the system. (Loud cries of Oh! and Divide.) I should prefer that no Reform Bill should be passed, rather than that this monstrous scheme should be carried into effect. (Oh! and laughter.)

[The Clause was rejected.]

[a-a]TT appeared to him almost incredible that the House of Lords could have adopted this monstrous proposition

[b-b]+TT

[1 ]Joseph George Churchward, a magistrate for Dover, in 1853 had been convicted of election bribery by a Committee of the House of Commons, and had been scrutinized by another Committee in 1859 for his role in the Dover election. On 19 March, 1867, P.A. Taylor had moved to have Churchward removed from his office.

[c-c]SSC] PD,TT principle

[2 ]On 5 August (PD, 3rd ser., Vol. 189, cols. 638–42). In the current debate Disraeli had signalled the Government’s favourable view of the amendment (cols. 1111–12).