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Front Page Titles (by Subject) 10.: Account of the Debate, in a Newsletter from Reading, b 17 th July. - Puritanism and Liberty, being the Army Debates (1647-9) from the Clarke Manuscripts with Supplementary Documents
10.: Account of the Debate, in a Newsletter from Reading, b 17 th July. - Arthur Sutherland Pigott Woodhouse, Puritanism and Liberty, being the Army Debates (1647-9) from the Clarke Manuscripts with Supplementary Documents [1938]Edition used:Puritanism and Liberty, being the Army Debates (1647-9) from the Clarke Manuscripts with Supplementary Documents, selected and edited with an Introduction A.S.P. Woodhouse, foreword by A.D. Lindsay (University of Chicago Press, 1951).
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- Foreword
- Postscript to the 1950 Edition
- Preface to the Second Edition
- Introduction
- Part I.: The Putney Debates
- At the General Council of Officers 1 At Putney, 28th October 1647.
- Putney, 29th October 1647
- Putney, 1st November 1647 At the General Council of the Army
- Part II.: The Whitehall Debates a
- General Council 1 At Whitehall, 14th December 1648 B
- Council of Officers, 8th-11th January 1649
- Whitehall, 13th January 1649 General Council 1 a
- Part III.: Puritan Views of Liberty a
- I.: Some Principles of the Puritan Parties
- From John Saltmarsh, Smoke In the Temple (1646) B
- From J[ohn] G[oodwin], Independency God’s Verity (1647) a
- II.: The Law of Nature
- From William Ames, Conscience (1639) a
- III.: Religious Principles of Resistance
- Christian Obedience and Its Limits From Calvin’s Institution of Christian Religion (thomas Norton’s Translation) a
- Presbyterian Principles of Resistance From [samuel Rutherford], Lex, Rex (1644) a
- Independent Principles of Resistance From John Goodwin, Right and Might Well Met (1649) a
- IV.: The Law and the Gospel: Christian Liberty
- From Luther’s Commentary Upon Galatians (edition of 1644) a
- Milton On Christian Liberty
- V.: The Privileges of the Saints
- The Elect and the Reprobate From William Prynne, Anti-arminianism (1630) a
- The Millennium At Hand [hanserd Knollys], 1 a Glimpse of Sion’s Glory (1641) a
- The Rule of the Saints 1 Certain Queries Presented By Many Christian People (1649) a
- VI.: Liberty of Conscience
- Independent Position From the Ancient Bounds (1645) a
- Separatist Position From Roger Williams, the Bloody Tenent of Persecution 1 (1644) a
- VII.: Models of a Free Church
- The Power of the People From Thomas Goodwin and Philip Nye’s Introduction to John Cotton’s the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven (1644) a
- The Church Covenant From [richard Mather], an Apology For Church Covenant (1643) a
- From the Saints’ Apology (1644) a
- A Spiritual Church From William Dell, the Way of True Peace and Unity 1 (1649) a
- VIII.: Leveller Principles 1
- God and Man From John Lilburne, the Free-man’s Freedom Vindicated (1646) a
- An Appeal to Parliament From the Large Petition of the Levellers 1 (march 1647) B
- An Appeal to the People From Richard Overton, an Appeal From the Commons to the Free People (1647) a
- Parliament Once More From the Levellers’ Petition to the House of Commons, 1 11th September 1648. A
- Agreements of the People the History of the Second Agreement 1 From John Lilburne, Legal Fundamental Liberties (1649) a
- The Second Agreement of the People (1648) From John Lilburne, Foundations of Freedom a
- The Female of the Species From a Petition of Women, Affecters and Approvers of the Petition of Sept. 11, 1648 1 (5th May 1649) a
- Democracy In the City From London’s Liberties Or a Learned Argument of Law and Reason 1 (dec. 1650) a
- IX.: Digger Principles
- From the True Levellers’ Standard Advanced 1 (1649) a
- Appendix a
- A.: the Spirit of the New Model
- 1.: Reports of Observers
- 2.: A Sermon At Putney From Thomas Collier, a Discovery of the New Creation a (preached At the Headquarters, Putney, 29th Sept. 1647)
- B.: the Army Organizes: May—june 1647
- 3.: Apology of the Soldiers to Their Officers 1 (3rd May ) a
- 4.: Advertisements For the Managing of the Counsels of the Army, 1 Walden, 4th May 1647 B
- 5.: From the Grievances of Regiments, Presented At Saffron Walden, 13th-14th May a
- 6.: Letters to the Agitators 1
- 7.: From a Solemn Engagement of the Army 1 (5 Th June ) a
- 8.: From a Representation of the Army (14th June) a
- C.: The Reading Debates
- 9.: Summary, With Selections, of the Debate In the General Council of the Army, At Reading, 16th July 1647, On the Proposals of the Agitators For Five Points to Be Insisted On By the Army and Enforced By a March On London a
- 10.: Account of the Debate, In a Newsletter From Reading, B 17 Th July.
- D.: Documents Relating to the Putney Debates
- 13.: From the Heads of the Proposals a
- 14.: The Levellers’ Discontent With the Heads of the Proposals From [john Wildman], Putney Projects a
- 15.: From [john Wildman], the Case of the Army Truly Stated a 15th Oct.
- 16.: A Letter From the Agents to the Whole Soldiery From Two Letters From the Agents of the Five Regiments (28th Oct.) a
- 17.: Letter of John Saltmarsh to the Council of War (28th Oct.) a
- 18.: From a Call to All the Soldiers of the Army By the Free People of England 1 (29 Th Oct.) a
- 19.: An Agreement of the People ( Printed 3rd Nov.) a
- 20.: Summary (with Quotation) of the Reports of the Committee On the Army’s Papers and the Agreement of the People a
- 21.: Proceedings In the General Council, 4th-9th Nov. From a Letter From Several Agitators to Their Regiments (11th Nov.) a
- E.: Documents Relating to the Whitehall Debates
- 22.: Petition of 11th September 1648:
- 23.: From a Remonstrance of Fairfax and the Council of Officers 1 (16th November 1648) a
- 24.: History of the Second Agreement of the People:
- 25.: From the Declaration of the Army, On the March to London, 30th November 1648 a
- 26.: Text of the Second Agreement of the People:
- 27.: Summary of the Debates On the Agreement, In the Council of Officers, 16th December-6th January; and of the Examination of Elizabeth Poole On 29th December and 5th January. a
- 28.: The Levellers’ Dissatisfaction With the Debates From John Lilburne, a Plea For Common Right and Freedom (28th Dec. 1648) a
- F.: Retrospect
- 29.: From a Declaration of the English Army Now In Scotland, 2 1st Aug. 1650 a
- Notes On Text
10.
Account of the Debate, in a Newsletter from Reading,b 17th July.
Yesterday there was a great council of war called; it held till twelve o’clock at night, consistingc of above one hundred officers, besides Agitators, who now in prudence we admit to debate. And it is not lessd than necessary they should be [admitted], considering the influence they have upon the soldiers. . . . And I assure you, it is the singularest part of wisdom in the General and the officers so to carry themselves, considering the present temper of the Army, so as to be unanimous in councils, including the new persons into their number. It keeps a good accord, and obtains ready obedience, for to this hour never any troop or company yet mutinied. . . . It is the hand of God that doth it, I hope, for a good end. It is not proper to relate particular debates yesterday; yet accept of a word in general, and think it not strange, if it should be advised to march nearer to London, as an expedient to obtain satisfaction in those particulars which have been long desired by the Army of the Parliament, as in particular declaring against foreign forces’ coming in, the putting Reformadoes out of the line, and suspending the eleven Members, but more especially to desire the Parliament to put the militia of the City of London into the same hands it was before, without which we cannot hold ourselves secure in proceeding to treat. . . . Though this was much pressed with reasons and earnestness by the Agitators, yet the General and the officers after many hours’ debate so satisfied them with arguments and reasons to the contrary, that they submitted it to the General and officers, no man gainsaying it; and so it is resolved to send to the Parliament to desire these particulars, especially the militia, and receive a positive answer within four days.
11. Of the Debate of 17th July, on the not-yet-completed Heads of the Proposals, the account, in Clarke MSS., vol. 67, is fragmentary, breaking off suddenly. Two speeches on the value of General Discussion, and of Reference to a Committee, alone are significant:
Ireton: For . . . the passing those particulars here read without a further weighing or consideration, it might be inconvenient; and therefore I shall desire that, though there be no man that finds anything of exception against any part of the thing that is read,a yet that it may be referred to a less number that may weigh or consider all things.b [These particulars are offered] not for a present conclusion, but consideration; for I cannot say the things have been so considered as to satisfy myself in them.
Allen: I shall only offer one word. I think that the things in hand he names are things of great weight, having relation to the settling of a kingdom, which is a great work; truly, the work we all expect to have a share in, and desire that others may also. I suppose it is not unknown to you that we are most of us but young statesmen, and not well able to judge how strongc such things which we hear now read to us may be to the ends for which they are presented; and for us out of judgment to give our assents to it must take up some time that we may deliberate upon it. And therefore I shall desire that we may not only name them [i.e. a committee] now, but spend some time [in debate], when we hear things unsatisfactory to the ends for which they are proposed.
12. This is followed in Clarke MSS. by an order of Fairfax, dated 18th July, naming twelve officers, including Ireton, Lambert, Harrison, Rainborough, Rich, Sir Hardress Waller, a committee ‘to meet, consult and proceed with the twelve Agitators, according to the appointment made at the General Council of War yesterday, for the perfecting of the Proposals then read, in order to the settling of the liberties and peace of the kingdom . . . ; and Lieutenant-General Cromwell to be present with the said council when he can.’
D.
DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE PUTNEY DEBATES
[(b)]Clarke Papers ed. Firth, 1. 215-16;
[(c)]consisted;
[(d)]more.
[421. (a-b)] transposed;
[(c)]longe.
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