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CCXXXVIII.: Charles Pinckney to James Madison. 3 - Max Farrand, The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, vol. 3 
The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, ed. Max Farrand (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1911). Vol. 3.
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Charles Pinckney to James Madison.3
Charleston March 28: 1789.
Are you not, to use a full expression, abundantly convinced that the theoretical nonsense of an election of the members of Congress by the people in the first instance, is clearly and practically wrong.4 — that it will in the end be the means of bringing our councils into contempt & that the legislature are the only proper judges of who ought to be elected? — —
Are you not fully convinced that the Senate ought at least to be double their number to make them of consequence & to prevent their falling into the same comparative state of insignificance that the state Senates have, merely from their smallness? —
[3 ]Documentary History of the Constitution, V, 168-169.
[4 ]See CCXXXVII above.